BSSF Painting Project 2017-2018 Azincourt French Commanders 1415

[Hannibal]

I have the Funcken book in PDF, will have a look tonight ...

[Jean_Paul]

On the air ... 30mm it's very small 

[willie]

Glen try looking at the Dictionary of Heraldry Feudal Coasts of Arms and Pedigress  By Joseph Foster  get the one with the blue cover it has the color in it.  Also Le Costume L'Armure ET Les Armes Au Temps DE LA Chevalerie BY Liliane et Fred Funcken  Willie

[Glen]

OK, so the presence of the Coat of Arms on the standard bearers chest is a big 'maybe'...? I can see it being present to indicate a person's affiliation with the boss, but then again, maybe not. I/we don't know the the true source material of the original illustration, so I'm thinking there may be some 'artistic licence' here. I think I will add it because it's adds some color to the figure's body.


Glen

[Hannibal]

The standard bearer I believe has not necessirily to bear the coat of arms like the owner of the coat of arms; this small drawing looks perhaps more like the modern sign of a golf club on his chest, than the historical representation of past unfiform of the bearer as it was on that date ...

[Glen]

This is the primary reference I'm using. It was posted very early in this thread. Note the lighter color of the gambeson and the chest insignia. Some of the details on the artwork were not duplicated on the figures, but I'll work around it.

[Hannibal]

I saw the painted set at Veldhoven with the vendor and will post them on the laptop of my wife later tonight in this answer .....  Keep in mind this is the interpretation of the painter, not a mandatoy box art!
Michel

[Glen]

Thanks. Already well on them. I've noticed the standard bearer figure has a brown gambeson, but the references show the gambeson as being a light tan color with the standard emblem over the figure's heart. I'm going to try an paint this, but the Fleur de Lis' will probably be little more than a dot pattern applied with a toothpick. I'm painting my light direction from the upper right front because that's the direction they're facing. When all else fails ...light the face.

Pressing on!

[Hannibal]

Sorry Glen, read now only.
1) I plan to paint one side only, light from the front left side as these flats will be exposed in a frame, not in a diorama
2) Colours are set by the coat of arms for the most;  your figure is Jacques III de Heilly, killed at Agincourt, his coat of arms is "De gueules, à une bande fusellée d'or", so colours are Red and Yellow  (I can't attach figure from my laptop now).
Jacques III of Créquy, sun of Jacques II de Créquy, lord of Heilly, served the duke of Burgundy Jean Sans Peur of which he was one of the main captains. In 1408, he marched against the Liege to restore their bishop on the episcopal seat. In 1413, he was made Lieutenant General of Guyenne. As a prisoner in Bordeaux, he fled. He took part in the battle of Agincourt in 1415 and was killed by the English, on the grounds that, against his word, he had escaped from his prison.
The nuance of red and yellow you wish to give is up to you, either bright, saturated or not; the colours we hav today from historical flags an paintings have been somewhat been faded by exposure to the aging and sunlight.

[Glen]

Ok, no feedback. I'm going with the existing refs and one sided. Charge!

[Glen]

I'm cleaning up and priming mine. Tried to do it during ReaperCon, but I was pulled in too many different directions and finally started working on the Dark Elf Ranger.


Just to be clear:


These are two sided figures; I am painting one or both sides?


I am painting these according to the previously posted refs; red surcoat with yellow diamonds on one and a brown gambeson on the dude holding the banner (and the banner itself is also painted as shown in the refs).


Correct?


Glen


While I wait I will enjoy a soft musical interlude of Blackmore's Night... 

[Hannibal]

I will start working on end next week; because we have Veldhoven, and I just acquire a new camera Nikkon, which I have to learn using correctly if possible before next Friday !
 

[Brian]

How are you all getting on with the project??   still got 6 figures left if you want to join the fun.
Will be 3 joining and you get 2 figures sent at random 

[Hannibal]

Thank you Francesco, for your two replies !

[fsbarile]

Perhaps I would post the WIP in a separate post to avoid a big mix-up, because I am slow and busy on others, but on this public menu, like "BFFS Agincourt Project 2018 - WIP Michel  (or Hannibal?)" for the two characters.

Should any of us follow this way ? I found it very good ..
Cheers
Francesco