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Glen

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Re: Knight 1380 - Redux
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2015, 11:19:55 AM »
Thanks Willie!

Re: Knight 1380 - Redux
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2015, 09:14:29 PM »
Glen it looks good to me, nice job ;D  Willie

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Re: Knight 1380 - Redux
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2015, 05:26:22 PM »
Well, here it is... Lowered upper eyelids and raised lower lids. Also glazed the 'whites' with a warm gray and flesh. No change to the irises. Also noted the lower lids have more of a curve than they should, but I can't fix that without re-sculpting. I'm well beyond that.


Glazed out the stark lines on the cheeks. They're not so prominent now, but ideally I think the depression should be filled with putty and smoothed over completely.


No other changes.


Thoughts?


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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2015, 12:08:08 PM »
Thanks everyone!


Hannibal, lowering the eyelid is an excellent idea, but I think it will need more than a thicker dark line. There is a fine line between a guy's eyelashes and what might look like eye makeup.  :o


I could keep the dark line the same thickness, but move it down and then increase the depth of lid itself. We're talking fractions of an inch (or mm) here. I'll look at glazing the white of the eye with a darker fleshtone as well. I think it'll kill that stark look. I'll test the concept in the PC.


I'm not sure what to do with the surcoat. As engraved/cast there are no folds or light wrinkles depicted anywhere. Additionally, the arms are depicted as long sleeve and appear to part of the surcoat. They could be separate metal armor, but there is no evidence of it in the form of straps, rivets, edges, or underlying mail. Most, if not nearly all, surcoats were sleeveless, worn over a long-sleeve mail hauberk, which, in turn, was worn over a padded jerkin. We should be seeing chainmail on the arms. The two shoulder flaps are a bit of an enigma as well. I'm not sure where their origin/design came from. They could be metal or leather. I painted them as metal. Mysteries and more mysteries...


Glen

Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2015, 09:03:55 AM »
First of all it is a very nice job well done ;D  Yes on the eyes and lets look at a few things. This is the middle ages are Knight I would say is in his mid 30s witch for that time is a very long life. As for his face that is a matter of diet and being out in the open and where he is from and bathing don't get down wind of him. As for the clothing well washing is hit and miss  ??? in those days. So now we have to get  him around the black death and he's doing ok Willie

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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2015, 05:19:15 AM »
I love this painting, great details very well painted, with very high attention to détails on the metal, hair, beard, helmet and its small irregularities... 
I agree with the remark for the eyes, and actually you are both right.  The trick to improve a bit, I believe would be to lower the upper eyelid by painting the bottomline a bit thicker.  Here simulated on PC
 

 
Another suggestion to make it a bit less 'artificial' would be to paint in "trompe-l'oeil" some  foldings in the white overall bearing the cross and in the arm.  There are two or three slight shadows traces made, just emphasize them a but more visibly.. (Also, computer simulation with a painting software can help).
Michel
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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2015, 01:52:34 AM »
Hello Glen,
good job  ;)

I agree with the remark of Franck, too much white in the eyes
Metals are very good particulary piqued effect of helmet
prehaps add some bright spots on the collar


Glen

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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2015, 09:59:27 PM »
Thanks for the input Frank! I'm glad you liked the metals.


The eyes are painted as engraved and cast. I had thought there might be too much 'whites' as well. I use a mix of light gray and a fleshtone to do the whites of the eyes. I painted the iris using a dark brown ring, a medium brown iris, and a small patch of a slightly lighter brown at the bottom. This was followed by a black dot for the lens and a white highlight. What you see is the second version of the eyes. I originally had the iris larger, but that didn't look right at all; more like a sad puppy. The repainted eyes have a smidge less than a third of the iris still under the upper lid, while the lower portion just touches (maybe a bit above) the lower lid. Although there are variations, that's actually fairly typical.


Overall, the piece is engraved as if it were a portrait of an older and no-nonsense leader with a neutral expression, hence the stare - call it the Light of God - so that's how I painted it.


On another forum, it was pointed out that the lines under the eyes look a bit odd; high cheek bones or really baggy eyes. I am thinking about toning them down a bit to make them less prominent. Then there's the nose. I think it should have more of an outward flare as it goes down to the tip, the nostrils set farther apart, and the tip a bit larger. But that's just me.  ::)


All that said, I was pleased with the sculpt and the cast. It's better than a few others I've gotten myself into. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone.


Cheers,


Glen

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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2015, 03:54:54 PM »
Hi
I like this very much the metals are really well done
overall great painting .....

Though I must point out the eye detail, or lack of It as it appears in the pic.
There seems to be a lot of white around a black eyeball, resulting in an un natural
stare. Maybe a reshaping of the eyes is needed, to give greater expression to the face

Frank

 


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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2015, 11:36:38 AM »
Thank you both! The metals are basically five(ish) of Reaper's metallics ranging from Adamantium Black (a metallic black) to Silver; all intermixed in various ratios. Rather than attempt to layer the paint down, I stippled it in place using old craft brushes - various sizes of flats and Filberts.


Cheers,

Glen

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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2015, 11:05:32 AM »
Very nice work, Glen. The armor is especially well done.
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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2015, 05:35:34 PM »
Well done, Glen!!!
An interesting bust
Roberto

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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2015, 11:18:26 AM »
Thanks everyone! This was my second bust (the first was a steampunk female and there are a couple of torsos under my belt) and first historical male.


Medieval and pinups, Nick; plus whatever I can do for the BFFS painting projects. Even better if I can combine medieval and pinups - boobs, butts, and battle-axes. Still working on my own designs as well. The ideas come faster than my ability to draw them let alone actually sculpt them. I worked up some PG-13 ideas with Brian, but they were shot down before I could put pencil to paper.


And I'm wondering if we'll see any flats inspired by Fifty Shades of Grey...  8)


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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2015, 11:18:00 PM »
I like it very much, too!
Well painted face - and first class metal paint/shine!
Well done!
Best regards-
sandor

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Re: Knight 1380
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2015, 07:28:26 PM »
Very nice bust painting!!
Michel
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