More "Reference"

[Moore]

Pat,  understand. will try to paint it in.

nickball:   thank you for your opinion.  Will heed that advise about if it's wrong, to make it darker.

Thanks
Dee

[Nicholas Ball]

I find it easier to paint in folds than add putty etc. Casting is just a guide anyway, once painted it is quite hard to tell what is and isn't cast.

I must say I recently had a figure where the fold was in the wrong place and yes I ignored it, however in certain light you can see the casting which is rather annoying.
If you do need to ignore a cast fold, try to do it as dark as possible.

[PJDeluhery]

Hi Dee,
 
Yes, depending on the casting and your vision of it, you may have to add detail/relief or even ignore relief that is already there. Just paint it as if the relief was present.

[Moore]

Guys,

I have another question. I have been looking at this flat and it's ready to be primed. BUT........
I noticed the hat is just flat, no jokes please   .  But really here is my question, sometimes do
you have to paint in the folds and creases. I am not sure I can do that, I guess I could just follow
the picture. OR should I put putty on it and make some folds ?

Sounds like everyone has been into other hobbies too.  You guys are very funny, I thought I was on the wrong forum
I use to do dollhouses and after this flat I may go back to that   Just kidding.

Thanks
Dee

[Nicholas Ball]

OK  i'm an Iriot,   and I'll give it a go and ask!!!

Do you have soft skin Brian?  Are you using too much moisturiser again!!!!

As for Motorcycles, I would like to draw your attention to page 6 of the health and safety manual, whereby it quotes:

Whilst using 2 wheels at speed, which may indeed help it to retain an upright position, it must be noted that in a static position, the said object may have a tendency of falling into a horizontal position, whereby it may therefore cause unintentional damage to either rider or pillion!!!
We therefore suggest that all operating manuals are read and fully understood before such actions of riding are undertaken!!!
Perhaps for those of a less competent proposition use vehicles of a 4 wheel nature.

I recon I'm in the wrong job!!!! This cr*p is so easy to write!!!!!! I'm a natural

[Brian]

Did someone say armour and soft skins, I've got tanks and trucks, even a few motorcycles chucked in. All you've got to do is ask. 

[Moore]

OMG Pat, You posted that.    Thank you. I am thrilled to be here and hope to really make this
my second passion. I thought maybe armor or softskins would be, I love the softskins, but I am
really leaning towards flats.
I have collected a few flats so this maybe the path I go down.

Thanks again Pat and everyone for welcoming me to this facet of the painting hobby.

I will keep searching this forum and try to learn as much as I can and ask questions.

Dee

[PJDeluhery]

Dee! It's great to see you here. Welcome.

Lots of friendly people with good information here - as you can see. I'm with Nick on the hole filling - unless it's a very large hole - I just use a little extra acrylic paint when I prime. But, there's one no right way.

BTW folks, Dee's flat of an ACW Confederate Cavalry Bugler was mentioned favorably in Toy soldier and Model Figure Magazine. Well done, Dee!

As anyone knows, Leprechauns are very real, although sometimes best viewed with (through) Guinness or Jameson/Bushmills brand glasses. Dee, if you want to see one, I'll buy the next time we meet!!
 
 

[willie]

 I started with figures from Bob Bard Buslers , Britains  Historex  Rose . I got my first flats from Pokes in NY. I used green stuff to fill holes and a magnifier to paint with. As for painting use what you feel good with.  As long as it makes you feel happy with the end results, then do it. As for Leprechauns  I would say that this club is sort of like Area 51 strange things happen on this web page So welcome to the club and you sanity Hearing will come soon

[Moore]

Glen, Thank you so just use what I use for my round figures. Got it.
I have spoken to others at shows who have done flats and I do understand the 'halo' vs
directional light. I have read Greg DiFranco's articles and I have Mike Taylors book.  Right now,
I find Mike Taylors book too much for me to 'absorb' It's great reference.  I think what confuses me
is the 'relfective light'.  I am going to try to just paint and then maybe try to understand that a bit more
later on.   I am mostly a round figure painter, but the flats fasicnate me.

Nick, I will try to post once I get this going.

Thanks everyone so very much. This is a nice place to be.

Dee

[Nicholas Ball]

Eric O'mally, has a nice ring to it.

Do you do tarmacing?

[errant49]

Don't worry Nick
I can see a leprechaun in my mirror each morning when I wake up
Don't you?
Eric

[Nicholas Ball]

Although I paint in water mixable oils, I fill tiny holes with acrylic paint and smooth it off.

Leprechauns don't  exsist?   Does this mean that Santa's not real either!!!!!
 I thought that  if you dug at the end of a rainbow where it lands on the ground you will find a large pot of gold.

OK I haven't found one yet, but I'm an optimistic type of guy

I agree with Mark, most of us started in rounds and some still paint them but unfortunately I possibly couldn't comment on this, or should I plead the 5th amendment??? 

Dee,  Do post photo's we will help anyway we can

[Glen]

Dee, The tools used for prepping flats are the same tools used for prepping resin and metal rounds - hobby knives, sanding sticks, fine files, etc. You can use the same putties/fillers as well: Squadron Putty, Milliput, Aves Apoxie Sculpt, Kneadatite (Green Stuff), etc. Ditto for primers and paints. If you're already well into rounds, you're pretty much set as far as tools and materials go.

Painting-wise, rounds are generally painted with the 'halo of light' overhead. Flats can be as well, but often there is some specific directionality. I tend to use a light source coming from the front upper left. With that in mind, you have to look for body parts and whatnot that might cast a shadow over another part of the piece. It'll all depend on the figure's pose.

Good luck with it.

Glen

[Moore]

Guys,

Another question. What do I fill little tiny holes with in the flat ?  I have 2 party resin I use
for resin figures. Would that be okay ?

As a 'rule' with flats, very little clean up and flashing. I see some along the edges that
I am gently cutting / shaving off.

Thanks
Dee