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Title: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: rm on November 28, 2013, 04:19:15 PM
Current project. Base coats. All in oils over flat white enamel primer.


Comments/criticism welcome.  :)


1. Uncleaned casting (11/25)


(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/rvm2013/Chasseur_1812_1_zps5cfc3376.jpg)


2. Cleaned (11/25)

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/rvm2013/Chasseur_1812_2_zps5a4551ef.jpg)


3. Primed (11/26)

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/rvm2013/Chasseur_1812_3_zps86a2d2b3.jpg)


4. Base coats (11/28)

(http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af71/rvm2013/Chasseur_1812_4_zpsb05cd9c2.jpg)




Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Roger on November 28, 2013, 04:43:43 PM
Good start Rob. That looks like a good smooth coat of primer.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on November 30, 2013, 07:59:56 AM
I have started (and stopped) the same figure a while ago, this might get me going again. Here it is just to show a different option of the multi-figure. Keep posting, I'll be interested in how this looks.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on November 30, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Ooops. Sorry to hear that. I will carry on with this one, now I have blown the dust off it.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on November 30, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
OK I will. Here is the current state of play, I have started some highlights on the horse, and done the greatcoat. If you are interested the horse is Mars brown with Naples Yellow highlights, the greatcoat is Paynes Grey and White with a bit of brown to warm it up.




Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Roger on November 30, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
Great stuff! Following with interest.  :)
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 07, 2013, 05:40:31 AM
Latest progress. Might actually finish this one.

Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 07, 2013, 11:14:39 AM
I know what you mean, this one was in an unfinished state for months, you may never go back to it.
As for the uniform, mine is a little fanciful. In such a situation there is no way the plume would be worn, nor the bag on the busby. Probably he would be in overalls, but seeing as so much was already inaccurate I went for the red stripe to add a dash of colour.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 08, 2013, 04:27:57 PM
On consulting my references the red stripe on the overalls is accurate.
The cloak should be green not grey, but I surmise my fellow 'borrowed' a grey one.
The inaccuracy I really refer to is one of my own choice, which was to leave the plume etc on. On campaign   they would not have been worn, so i am pushing the boundaries to keep them there.  It isn't totally beyond the impossible and it does add some colour, so they are staying.
The bridle etc is a bit of a shocker, I might have to amend with the paintbrush if I can.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 09, 2013, 12:51:14 PM
Here is a uniform reference. Hope it helps your motivation!
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Joerg on December 10, 2013, 02:47:30 AM
Regardless what Charles' picture states - is there any chance to remove a busby bag from that headgear?

Completely d'accord with plume, but the bag?  Wasn't it fixed at the "outer [fur] part" ?

Puzzled
Joerg
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 10, 2013, 04:04:28 AM
Joerg
I am going by a number of pictures by Rousselot, the bag is missing in quite a few, for example tenue de route, tenue en manteau, in Spain and in the 1809 campaign. The book I have is called Napoleon's Elite Cavalry, which is full of beautiful Rousselot paintings.
If Napoleon was near, and they were in tenue d'escorte, the plume and the bag are present.
I have no idea how it comes off.
Charles
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Joerg on December 10, 2013, 04:55:38 AM
@Charles, thank you for clarification!

My French is bad but I could understand, that the bag was hidden somehow in the upper part of the headgear.
http://centjours.mont-saint-jean.com/uniformes_uniteFR.php?uniformes=60&drapeau=

If I will recall the topic I will try to explore the riddle next springtime,
when meeting French reenactor mates at the Champagne battlefields.

Joerg
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: willie on December 10, 2013, 09:19:05 AM
The French National Army Museum in Paris might have the answer on how the plume and Busby bag comes off. You have to remember when you are out in the field all that stuff comes off quick in combat. Also in the Russian winter if you are trying to get to the west and Paris, its keep you and horse warm. Willie
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 21, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
Finished, although I have noticed it needs a few buckles on the harness. If it hadn't been for this post I reckon that one would have stayed in the box for ever.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 22, 2013, 05:34:02 AM
We all know how that feels. A quick count shows me 38 figures at various stages of painting!
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Kulmbach on December 22, 2013, 07:58:33 AM
Dear Charles,


The busby was just tucked in, no big deal. The plum was easely taken off. What I would like to see are tracks in the snow, now it looks like the horse has stood there for days. Some traces of beard on the fellow should also add to some kind or realism.


Jan
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: Charles on December 22, 2013, 11:15:56 AM
You are right Jan, thanks.
The more I look, the more there is to do. When it is dry I will tinker with it a bit.
Title: Re: Chasseur, retreat, 1812
Post by: marko on December 22, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
Charles, a man after my own heat but, only 38?


Great looking Chausseur by the way.


mark